#i don’t mean this is a mysoginist way

[reguluskeys]

every time Regulus Black is mega feminized or babied in a fic or in general an angel loses its wings

i’m the angel the wings are my soul

[fredfugues]

If you crushed a Redditors skull no blood or grey matter would come out, only clumps of wet sand and leaf litter

[mildlycursedhistoricalobject]

I think with Amber, she’s treated by the show as a plot point and she’s never developed in the way I wanted her to be. I personally do love Amber, but I think it takes people a long time to warm up to her because her screen time is so limited and then there’s the obvious fridging. I wouldn’t say it’s internalised misogyny if you just don’t like her, I mean you can dislike a female character without being motivated by mysoginy, and I think people who try telling you otherwise are limiting female characters in the process of defending them this way. BUT with Amber especially I found it helpful to consider her position within the plot. Like, she’s presented as a mirror to House, but with House we get to warm up to him over time so we tend to side with him over others. Amber, on the other hand, is given a lot less screen time and thus we have a lot less time to warm to her (writers strikes but also I don’t think she was ever really handled as well as she should’ve been) AND it’s super easy to see her through House’s lense: as a threat. I think I mainly realised this when I was rewatching the show and saw how House would do something far worse than what Amber does, but because it’s House, we know and root for him far more; to the degree of being a viewer of what’s essentially House’s story, it’s easy to take his side while seeing Amber as a “cutthroat bitch.” I don’t like the way characters reduce her to a “female version of House” because I think they’re very different in the way they approach things and the ways that they’re seen to care. Amber’s ambitious which I think is cool to see, but she was robbed of the complexity she could’ve had if they’d approached her character as more than just an obstacle for House.

So yeah, I actually like Amber, but hating her isn’t necessarily born from internalised mysoginy. I do think it sometimes is, but tbh I mostly blame the writing and the brevity of her screentime (no matter the reasons for it). Amber’s a really complex, compelling character and, like I mentioned before, it’s refreshing to see a female character be so ambitious, but that complexity is buried underneath layers of dismissal from other characters in show, and a need from the writers to position Amber as a threat to House. Speaking for myself, I’d never call Amber evil, because I don’t think she is, but there’s no reason to feel bad for, you know, disliking her op. As far as the writing goes you were never actually meant to like her.

Hope this helps :))

I wondered, on rewatching House, if I'd have similar revelations as I had rewatching other shows I mostly saw as a preteen, particularly in terms of women characters. I was much less self-conscious of my internalized misogyny back then and hated lots of female characters with my whole heart, for Reasons, some of which were valid and many of which were not. Upon a (very brief, incomplete) revisit of Breaking Bad, for instance, I realized I should never have hated Skylar. This has happened across a few shows, where I've realized I liked a character more than I did as a kid and perhaps more than the writers intended for me to.

I remember mostly liking Cuddy and Cameron and being straight-up obsessed with Thirteen. I remember hating Amber. I wondered if a rewatch would change my perspective. I think if she hadn't pulled that fake-ghost shit with Thirteen... But she did, and I still hate Amber. I like Wilson less for his involvement with her. She pops up and he kisses her and I just want to puke. Does he know how fucking evil she is? Does he not care? Is she as evil as my angry intestines insist? Am I blinded to some good qualities in Amber by my love of Thirteen? Am I still thirteen years old and that's why I'm writing a fucking blog post on Tumblr about it?? If you are a fan of Amber and you see this in the House tags please lmk why. Not super worried about spoilers for the 20 year old show I've already seen but I'm not quite to season 5 yet in the rewatch if that matters.

[em-harlsnow]

that tiktok trend when girls pretend their skin sheds once a month, except it’s debbie doing it on ian and mickey.

debbie thinks it’s actually ridiculous the type of things men will fall for. do they really believe women’s skin sheds??

so she puts on the only clear face mask she has - it’s probably about five years old but that doesn’t matter - and then waits for it to dry. once it’s not at all sticky, she traipses into the kitchen where her brothers are eating breakfast.

casual as anything, she picks at a bit of the face mask.

“oh my god, not this again. I hate it when this happens.” she groans and pulls out her phone camera to pretend to examine the ‘shedding’.

“what, debs?” ian asks, then looks up from his phone. he does a double take and suddenly looks at her with an expression which is both horrified and confused. “what the fuck is wrong with your face?”

mickey starts paying attention then, donning a similarly stunned face. “why the fuck is your skin peeling?!”

debbie sighs, rolling her eyes like they’re stupid. “you guys know nothing about women. our skin sheds once a month and this is really inconvenient because i have work today!”

ian gapes at her, and mickey mirrors it.

“what the fuck do you mean? your skin sheds? what the fuck?” ian asks hurriedly.

“that’s fucking gross.” mickey tells her, but gets up to look at her closer anyway, morbidly fascinated.

“you think normal bodily functions are gross? ugh, men.” debbie tries to act the same way she would if someone was grossed out by periods, and it seems to work.

when debbie starts peeling off the face mask, they both stare at her with horror.

“what do you mean??? that’s not normal!” ian tells her.

“yes, it is and i thought my family was much less mysoginistic than its acting.” she huffs.

“is that your skin?” mickey scowls, disgusted.

“yes!” she chides.

“that’s so gross.” he tells her again and she rolls her eyes.

“men are so dumb, did neither of you listen in biology?”

ian looks fucking hilarious, his face shifting to be entirely lost as he tries to remember some biology lesson he seemingly missed.

“i have a fucking sister and she never shed her fucking skin.” mickey says.

“because usually it happens at night.” debbie explains tiredly, trying to hide her laughter.

“ewww.” ian says as she peels a big chunk off, but he won’t stop staring.

“you’re both sexists.” she tells them as she leaves, cackling to herself the moment her back is turned.

-> send me tiktok trends

-> also here’s a link to someone doing this trend in case you don’t know it: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGesAYMjh/

[thosewildcharms]

Your rhetorical questions have lit up my brain lol like what if Rick had met Michonne and Andre first instead of Morgan and Duane? 🤯 But anyway on a separate note, it’s so wild to see Rick and Shane’s first scene and Rick laughing along to Shane’s mysoginistic weird ass rant in light of who he is now. He really was just some emotionally repressed small town guy, And while Lori telling Rick “I wonder if you even care about us” in front of Carl was horrible, I wonder what Rick could’ve done or not done that would make her feel that way? And Shane said women’s problem is they don’t know how to turn off a light switch, to which Rick says part of the problem is he’s the one who’s leaving light switches on; I hate to be missing something that’s probably obvious but what did he mean with that?

oh that's a great idea for an AU anon. your mind!

this got long because who am i, so under a read more it goes.

maybe i got my rickgirl blinders on and am giving him too much credit but i thought rick was laughing at least somewhat incredulously at shane's speech (he was at the very least shaking his head a lot until the very end) but yes present-day rick would probably not have entertained that quite so much lol. but to kind of go along with that, my interpretation of light switch thing was rick kind of dismissing shane's, as you pointed out, misogynistic joke by saying he's the one with the issue turning off lights, and also to shift the conversation into the Actual Problems he and lori are having. also in retrospect it kinda feels like the show was lowkey already telling us lori and shane were more suited for each other than lori and rick but i could be reading into that. but listen metaphors have a habit of flying right over my (probably) autistic little head so i could also be missing some hidden meaning there.

as for the fight with lori, there's a flashback (i think in season 2?) where lori is talking to a friend about that same fight and she admits that she was the one who was being the asshole and how she got even more pissed off over how even-tempered and reasonable he was in response. from rick's perspective, he said he would try to talk about his feelings only for it to seem like lori didn't actually want to hear them after all. honestly i think they were just fundamentally incompatible, as we saw over and over in seasons 1 and 2. it wasn't anyone's fault, and their fights probably escalated because they didn't even know how to argue the way the other person wanted them to.

and not to constantly compare rick/lori to richonne, but rick similarly almost never yells or gets mean the few times we see him and michonne argue. the couple of times he did in towl were such an anomaly it set off alarm bells for michonne that something was really wrong with him (and also the situation was just objectively insane). but michonne and rick know how to disagree without getting ugly, and she certainly never has to try to provoke him into communicating because they have a fundamental understanding of each other that rick and lori never had. for sure rick learned from his mistakes with lori but i don't think the rick who was with lori was an entirely different person who said horrible things to his wife. he couldn't express himself the way we see he can with michonne because he just didn't have that type of connection with lori. and to be fair, lori didn't feel that with rick either, and again, that's okay. they probably should have just called it quits well before rick got shot. @cantstayawaycani and @jonesywrites go into this far more eloquently than I did here in their very excellent towl season 1 reaction video that you should definitely watch, because it's wonderful from start to finish.

[averagepsychouser]

Caesar doesn’t genuinely believe in misogyny. I disagree that his charisma score and intelligence be so low because the way he implements control tactics over the entirety of the Legion is actually really smart when you get down to it.

To clarify before I start my inane babbling I’ve gotta tell y’all that I don’t like the Legion as a faction but as a story device they’re very cool. I’m also not a mysoginist. Granted I don’t think you’ll be able to get that impression of me from my rant but still I wanna make it clear that I hate the Legion as a faction 🙏🙏😘

Every member of the Legion who is a soldier is a slave. Slaves—obviously—do not like being slaves. If all of the Legion consisted of both women and men as soldiers on somewhat equal standing with each other, they would start discussing ways to get free. Naturally, of course, I’m sure there are discussions like this within the Legion already, but regardless. The act of making women seem unequal to men is a control tactic. People are desperate for any semblance of control in a powerless situation, therefore if there is a group that is even lower than they are, and they have their own control over them, they won’t want to give it up. A hierarchal system like this is a killer control tactic when utilized against a very large group of people. Women are stuck in place as lower than the lowest man, which means that the men have power over them no matter their own standing.

Competitiveness also comes into play here. With the rigorous competition within the Legion, you’ve got people who are not going to want to give up what power they have and attempt to escape, especially if that power took painstakingly long to get. A centurion who has worked for his position will not want to leave because he has control over every person lower than him. A recruit who has just been assimilated will not want to leave because even though he is new, he’s still got more standing than the highest ranking woman.

Of course, threats of violence help too, but that’s not what I’m focusing on t en

[bicheetopuff]

Can i be very honest about the shipping fandom for a second? I actually dgaf about denying "oh you just don't want (insert female/male character) in the way of your gay ship" bc like, so what? I don't care abt that other straight ship, and i don't care about that other character at the moment neither. I am just leaving them alone. Just not wanting them there isn't an attack on them.

On bnha specifically i WISH people just didn't like Uraraka for that kind of petty, unworthy of argument reason and left her alone than having to call her horrible things, or worse, calling her awful mysoginistic things while demanding she be placed as the mc's submissive housewife bc "what's the point of her even existing anyway then?"

I don’t think I’ve ever not liked Ochako for the sake of shipping, she’s been one of my favorite characters since day one and I actually don’t think bkdk would be the same without her presence.

She’s the one who made Deku rethink the meaning of Deku as a name, turning it into a term of endearment/heroism and later on kind of forcing Katsuki to accept that meaning as well. I think it took him longer to truly let the change set in that “Deku is the name of a hero” and to fully understand why Deku liked it so much.

Also I think Katsuki’s relationship with Ochako kinda further proves to him and the audience just how obsessed he’s always been when it came to Deku, not being able to help but compare her to him from nothing outside of the fact that they were friends.

Also I agree, I’d rather see people not like her out of petty reasons than to see people be legitimately misogynistic towards her like a lot of male fans are. She’s her own person outside of deku and I wish more people recognized that instead of narrowing down her entire character to the crush she had on him.

[sharpth1ng]

do u think randy and billy would actually be friends and like each other if billy wasn’t a murdering misogynistic sociopathic all of the above

I mean honestly no? Randy hates Billy before he knows all of that stuff so I don’t think it would make much of a difference. From what we see in the movie Randy mostly hates Billy because he’s dating Sidney.

Billy barely expresses any aggression towards Randy until the videostore scene, and in that instance Randy has literally just accused him of murder. Like to be fair if I was Billy in that moment and I was innocent I’d be pretty fucking pissed at Randy too, esp if I had just spent the night in jail.

Most of what we see in the interactions between Billy and Randy it’s Randy starting shit tbh, and I’m not saying Billy is blameless, he’s obviously an asshole but from what we see in the movie this isn’t a situation where he’s bullying Randy. He mostly seems to ignore him.

And honestly, one of my pet peeves in this is the way Randy’s misogyny is ignored. He’s honestly got some real incel vibes to me- I know it’s a slasher trope but he’s the mouthpiece for tropes in this movie and he literally says ‘sex equals death’.

He’s also equally insensitive as Billy and Stu after Casey and Steve die. He knows Sid is scared and he still says the “slice and dice” shit and the stuff about the liver in the mailbox. That liver belonged to his now dead female classmate and he’s grinning when he talks about it.

But it’s the stuff he says about Sidney that’s the worst to me: “now that Billy tried to mutilate her do you think Sid would go out with me?” This doesn’t feel like he’s seeing her as her own person with her own agency, he’s not even centering her trauma like he cares about her. 

A good friend would be focused on making sure she’s ok if her boyfriend “just tried to mutilate her”, dating her would not be the priority, but Randy skips over whatever she might be experiencing because he’s more interested in the possibility of getting with her.

The other moment that bothers me most is when he sees Sidney going upstairs with Billy and says “there goes my chance with Sid” as if he only wanted her when she was a virgin, like she’s somehow less desirable if she has sex with Billy.

I think all of this stuff is pretty par-for the course in 1995, like this is Randy being a pretty typical 90s man here. But it’s still misogyny. I still think Randy is an interesting and well written character, but it does feel like his “nice guy” archetype gets taken at face value and there’s not a lot of discussion of the real flaws that he has.

You can still like him btw this is not a callout post, and I think he’s a very entertaining character. I write stuilly, I’m not judging anyone for an attachment to morally questionable characters and I don’t think a character needs to be a good person for you to like them. That said I think it’s also important to recognize the flaws a character does have.

All this is to say that I don’t think Billy is the reason that Billy and Randy don’t get along. If Billy wasn’t a mysoginistic murderer (I’m not going to call him a sociopath as that term usually refers to anti-social personality disorder) but he was still dating Sidney I think Randy would still hate him.

[stxrslut]

you moony and hannah are an unlikely match. I don’t mean that in a funny way like these other bitches I mean that as an insult. you’re ruining the vibes around with all your softie “oh I could never be a dom!” content ur such a pick me and you only write for the male gaze. there’s no real woman who looks and acts all “cutesie” like you pretend to. and it’s fucking embarrassing how everyone eats it up all the time “omg! Lily is so cute I love her!” just know that they’re all fucking dick rider bitches and mysoginists you probably sell your body to random men online because that’s just how pathetic and you act like you’re just not responsible for yourself you fucking melt you won’t get anywhere in life you’re probably lying about going to school I bet you live in your mothers basement

this is… a lot…

[carogudino-blog]

So, lots of people don’t get over the White Stag « criston was there » BUT… do we actually have a moment where we see Criston believe Rhaenyra is the true heir? No.

Yes, he is really devoted to her as her sworn protector, and knows he owes her everything he has, yet when she asks him « will the realm ever accept me as their queen? » he gives a very bague answer, but he clearly doesn’t seem to be thinking « of course my Queen, why wouldn’t they » or « Absolutely ». Even Fabien said in an interview that scene was interesting bc Criston cannot say what he actually thinks … but his expression is not one of someone who is convinced she is the heir with no question. Later, he asks her to run away, in his mind this is fine and a solution, he is not bringing the realm down by taking away their heir to the throne, or anything like that and they can live happy, and he can restore his honor (not a solution but in his mind seems to be) I believe he may thought… the realm has another heir so she can give it up without much consequence and we can go and live our lives with some twisted belief of love and honor.

Years later, when he crowns Aegon he says « true heir to the Iron Throne » and he seems to actually believe this. Yes, now he is devoted to Alicent and is some sort of father figure to Aegon and his siblings (pretty sure he loves them all) but you do see him be more firm in backing up Aegon than what he ever did to backup Rhaenyra. And no, i don’t believe this is just « oh, he hates Nyra so he supports Aegon » bc if he hated Rhaenyra and that was it, he would have not gone along with Alicent’s petition to get Aegon for her so she can spare Rhaenyra, or even would have volunteer to go to Dragonstone and kill her as Otto wanted Westerling to do so… and is really bad character development to simplify his decisions and loyalty by: he ´s heartbroken (but this is a completely other post)

Criston Cole is a knight that believes in the system that they live in, where a first born son come bfore anyone else, so even seeing the White Stag wouldn’t make him become fully convinced Nyra is the one who should be Queen. Criston is about religion, duty and classic chivalry … (some say he is mysoginistic BUT he just lives in that society and to be fair, he actually is the only man with a healthy and respect- balanced relationship with a woman: Alicent. Not saying he’s a feminist but he is just as the rest of the bloody men in this story) So, yes, probably he would known the meaning of the White Stag but also probably saw it as a coincidence…or idk, but I can’t think of a moment in HOTD where we can say « yes, Criston believes and supports Rhaenyra’s claim » bc protecting or even loving her doesn’t mean he stands by her as the true heir. And he never does it in the way he does for Aegon.

((All this came to mind thanks to the leak of Rook’s Rest speech, Criston saying « the true king, Aegon » or something like that))

[necromanticwhxre]

Hi, just out of curiosity, why does a transblog don’t like interactions from sissy blogs? I hope it‘s not offensive to ask, I‘m just not from this space and I was wondering. :)

hiihii its not offensive to ask! :) like anything its better to ask if unsure than remain ignorent i dont know if i can answer this in a way that will make sense but here it goes.. So this answer will depend on who you ask. While I will never kink shame anyone and what people get off on is completely upto them as long as its safe sane and concentual.

Sissy blogs and generally any sissy spaces on the internet is A LOT (not all) but a lot will use transgirls photos & posts in their fantasies Which while doesn't sound to bad on the surface, but the issue in my opinion boils down to what a sissy (generally means) is a Man dressing as a women often for humiliation purposes. Now if a sissy/blog posts a transwomen in their content, to me that says that the sissy does not see that trans women as a women..but as a man pretending to be a women so for me thats the Main reason i do not want any interaction from sissy blogs. The other issues is a lot of the sissyblogs will repost stolen content. A lot of people i know find sissy play mysoginistic as well...as in you find it humiliating to present as women? or presenting as a women is a punishment for you. (there are other examples) I will also say i know of a few trans people who started off in the sissy scene and through that realised they are trans, so i will never hate on a sissy person. like anything i wil say its not all sissies and sissyblogs but for me its easier to have a flat DNI I will also ask if any other people want to put their thoughts in on why they dont want sissy blogs or if your a sissyblog and want to put in why you want to access transblogs feel free Just keep it civil :)

[finns-drafts]

I’m actually going to kms after that ending/j

like yes, I get that it was good for the plot and an amazing cinematic decision but the way it ended makes it impossible for a season 3 (if they want to keep the plot) but I also feel that the writing was rushed and that there’s a few plot holes like how did Loki manage to do that? What was his thought process WHO WAS THAT LAST LINE TARGETED TWORDS ?!?! But also with that ending if we don’t get a season 3 we might at least get a Mobius spinoff another thing I hate abt the ending is that it basically closes off Loki’s story in the MCU I mean, we know most likely we won’t get another avengers movie because of the Marvels and stuff (which I hate btw (not in a mysoginistic way I just hate them I find them very annoying)) like did Thor or anyone else in the mcu even know abt the tva or what was going on?? Maybe I’m just sad I have to find a new show to watch instead of watching the same 3 shows again and again 😔

[thepunkmuppet]

to any lgbt people who actually like this ship, while I can’t for the life of me understand why, I don’t want to ruin anything for you. but it has to be said.

the romantic pairing of sylvie and loki is inherently queerphobic.

and no, not because a queer man is in a relationship with a queer woman, bisexual people are attracted to the opposite gender and that’s obviously completely fine and normal - that’s not what I mean.

what I specifically mean is, unfortunately, transphobia. because the idea that the sylvie and loki “selfcest” is 100% pushing, whether it’s intentional or not, is autogynephilia.

this was an idea used to sexualise, demonise and pervert the experiences and identities of trans women, as it is literally defined as “a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female”. this idea actively presents trans women’s identities as invalid, inherently sexual, potentially mysoginistic, and generally perverse and disgusting.

romantically pairing up two different versions of a (in other iterations) canonically genderfluid / non-binary character, one completely male presenting, one completely female presenting, is not “self love”. if the two characters were friends, who cared for each other deeply and loved each other for who they were, THAT would be a beautiful self love metaphor. having them be romantically involved, sharing an on-screen kiss… that’s an example of autogynephilia. they are saying, “loki is in love with the female version of himself”.

and it doesn’t clearly represent the character as trans or genderfluid to non-queer audiences at all - I’ve spoken to straight/cis friends about their thoughts, and they just saw it as “boy loki is in love with girl loki”

and, sadly, I would bet my entire life savings that they would never have even considered this romance plot line if it was with another male-presenting loki variant. I mean hey, look at the way the three spider man variants were presented in no way home. they were all male, all played by different actors, and THEY WERE LITERALLY DESCRIBED AS BROTHERS. MULTIPLE TIMES.

it just makes me incredibly sad that marvel and its writers would rather a) push the gender binary on a non-binary character, and b) create a romance based around blatant transphobia and borderline (like ON the borderline. like not even just close to it like it is THERE) incest, than include a gay relationship with mobius, or have all iterations of loki be canonically genderfluid. so disappointing.

this is just my take and… honestly idk how anyone could really dispute it, but I’m open to other interpretations!! I hate this pairing with a fiery vengeance but if you like it and you’re willing to be respectful and bring up actual points, I would love to hear your thoughts!!

in conclusion, fuck the loki show and goodnight xoxo

[the-other-art-blog]

You all need to go watch La legge di Lidia Poet on Netflix! (The Law according to Lidia Poet)

Poet was the first woman to graduate as a lawyer in Italy in the late 19th century. However, the attorney general revocated her title and she couldn’t practice. I’ll admit I haven’t done much research, so I’m speaking on what I saw in the series. She goes to her brother Enrico and becomes his “assistant,” although she conducts the investigations. It’s only 6 episodes and they are gold!

Lidia is a strong, independent woman, who endured mysoginistic treatment all her life but she never turns into a girl boss, not-like-other-girls character. She’s funny and witty but she never offends anyone just because. And she’s a bit of a romantic. Most of the cases are about women and she has the opportunity of expressing her anger and frustration against the system. Yet, it never feels like they are slapping you with a 21st-century feminist pamphlet. The show is able to expose the injustices women faced in an organic and clever way. I tell you, I was so mad when they read the reasoning of the court to revoke her title 🤬 .

But what I love most is that the three male characters are incredible. Her brother might seem a bit harsh in the beginning, but he loves his sister so much. Their sibling dynamic is so fun to watch. When he shuts her up, you know he’s not mean, he’s just annoyed at his sister. But when it’s time to be serious, he respects her opinion. Jacopo is another very likeable character who is there as a romantic interest but with his own personality and arc.

But the best, the best is this guy:

I cannot express how much I love this guy. He’s a delight! This is what a true gentleman is. He is always there for her, respects her limits, cheers her up. Damn, he even offers her a brighter future expecting nothing in return. Their relationship is casual and he does not pressure for more.

In a time where “feminist” movies/shows only trash men to uplift women, it’s refreshing to see a show with 3 male characters who are likeable and support the female protagonist.

Oh and the humor! It’s so on point. I laughed so hard every episode.

And because there is no period drama without a class-difference romance, here you have that too!

It’s a great show! Try and watch it in Italian, even if you don’t understand a word of it. Turn on the subtitles.

[the-nysh]

Do you ship any canon ship, in manga/anime? I can't bring myself to ship or even support like 95% of canon ships in manga, they're just... very bland. The dynamics are boring most of the time, there's always some mysoginistic element going on (even in shojo mangas. Why can't the heroine physically save the male love interest for once :/ w h y), and the parties included most of the time have way better chemistry with their same-sex "best friend" (I'm talking about canon straight ships).

Depends on what kind of stories you're reading, how good the author is at setting up and committing to their romance, and how you even define what's 'canon' at all really. Cause the only 'canon' I care about is whether a pair has an interesting canon dynamic (meaning they're a core part of or the focus of the story already) that piques my interest and keeps me invested in their story. To see how they turn out. Otherwise I usually don't 'ship' if their relationship has no focus/development or if the story isn't even about the pair's journey together. Cause not all stories even have romance, or are even structured in a way for a mutual confession at the very final chapter either - cause some, like in Mob, subvert that 'expectation' with no canon couples anyway. So it really depends.

Most shoujos (with clearly advertised romance) that spend their real-estate building a 'main' pairing (unless there's triangles for more twists and drama to keep readers unsure and guessing) usually end up together as....the story properly tells, cause that's literally what those stories are about. Ex: like in Skip Beat, the slowest of the slow burns where the main paring dances around each other indefinitely - some might not consider them technically 'canon' if they haven't openly confessed yet, but if the story is literally about them navigating their developing relationship and growing as people, then...by definition that's what's canon. BLs that focus on a 'main' pairing and properly develop them as advertised are the same. (Oh, and I've read some 'bad' shoujos where the author tried to appeal to both sides of the love 'triangle' but it just turned into a wasted mess that pleased no one. So do yourself a favor and don’t read past the first half of Vampire Knight; ohh what a wtf that became.) More 'harem' type stories with a huge cast of 'suitors' usually end up favoring one pair over another as the story progresses...with extremely obvious hints from the author about where their story's going. Ouran Host Club and Fruits Basket turned out like this, where you could tell who was going to be 'endgame' based on how the drama unfolded, and sure enough, the main 'ship' became a satisfying established item just as I hoped. The authors played their cards right and I have no complaints!

In stories like shonens where romance is not the main focus, but more a side thing or B plot, I can say that fma is probably the most satisfying that developed it naturally (without any bs) over the course of the story, and is probably the only ‘married with kids’ ending that felt genuinely deserved. (So I cheered when Ed/Winry finally became an established item!) Say for Bleach I actually did not have a problem with Orihime, since the story spent several arcs developing her side and how the feelings were mutual, so that becoming endgame was not a surprise to me at all; I was fine with it (even tho I had dropped the manga much earlier for other reasons.) Let’s see...other stories like Inuyasha and Full Metal Panic I was on board with their main pairings too. So for the most part, yes, if authors do it well (with proper setup and payoff) then I have no problem supporting their main het couples.

The only time it’s really a problem to me is when it’s rushed and feels like it comes out of nowhere (Kny, Naruto), or say...when the author heavily teases it the entire story but never commits (aaaah Soul Eater was so close!) Some leave it as a more open-ended thing (Kekkaishi) and that’s ok. Others completely sever it and leave it tragically hollow, unaddressed, and unsatisfying (Blade of the Immortal, damn wtf that felt almost cruel to simply part ways forever.) Others end up with no pairings at all if the story never needed them (or romance) to tell their messages (ex: orv, a korean novel which isn’t a manga or japanese, but it refreshingly had no romance at all despite the many teases going both m&f ways for the mc.) Edit: and also who could forget Blue Flag, where instead of the ‘main’ m/f pair, the mc chose his male best friend for a m/m ending instead!

So...what can I say? (Read more mangas beyond shonens not advertised as romance??) Cause most of the mangas I have read with properly advertised romance between their main ‘canon’ pairs turned out just fine to me - and it’s more of an outlier where they turn out ‘bad,’ but that’s also due to poor planning or rushed endings on the author’s part. Also if the (often male) author knows they don’t do romance well, then it’s preferable they don’t add it in over trying to shoehorn in something unsuitable last-minute. But for the most part, I’m here for the ride, and if I don’t like where the canon story is going, regardless of whether it even has ships or not - cause that’s more a secondary thing, then I’ll drop it. (But I also think...if an unfinished story’s not about a het pair at its core, then it’s presumptuous for readers to assume they’ll become ‘canon’ at all...if canon itself doesn’t even care about them - so yes I’m talking about bnha here, where nothing’s confirmed ‘canon’ yet, but it’s obvious even to Japanese readers what m/m relationship already represents the canon heart of the story.)  

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I have to say no one calls out these men/bad people before Taylor is involved with them. Like I had never seen that the author of Where the Crawdads Sing was a murder before Taylor wrote that song. Or that the director of Amsterdam was a rapist/pedophile/transphobic asshole. Or that Matty Healy was racist and mysoginistic. So is it really that hard to believe that she didn’t know either. And then after she is already a part of a project/dating someone what is she supposed to do? Release a statement saying “I’m sorry. I didn’t know this guy was so bad. I don’t stand for this” because people would rip that apart to bc she is already making money off of it or already associated with it.

I just have never seen another artist/actor get torn apart for the bad people they associate with. Like all the people who stood by Johnny Depp or Harvey Winestein and continue to work with them and bank role them. Like I get that people are hurt with her association to these bad people, but doesn’t the actual person who is causing the harm deserve more hate. Like Halsey dated this guy yet no one is hating on them (Halsey), or saying that their association with him means that they support his values in any way.